Is Project 2025 Running or Ruining America?

Doing the Do In Business with Ms. June  examines one of the most controversial political blueprints shaping modern American conversation. In this in-depth podcast discussion, Ms. June breaks down the origins, goals, and growing influence of Project 2025, the conservative policy initiative developed by The Heritage Foundation and allied organizations.

The episode explores how policies connected to the Project 2025 document may already be influencing political decisions and legislation across the United States. Listeners are guided through discussions involving voting rights, minority voter redistricting, education reform, DEI programs, Homeland Security, immigration enforcement, healthcare policy, and growing tensions surrounding Iran and foreign policy.

Ms. June examines real-world examples that critics and supporters alike say align with the document’s recommendations, including state-level education restrictions, immigration crackdowns, changes in diversity initiatives, and debates surrounding executive power and federal oversight. The episode also highlights important historical references, timelines, political figures, court rulings, and controversial public reactions connected to the initiative.

In addition to policy discussions, the podcast addresses conspiracy theories, media narratives, and the national divide surrounding Project 2025. Rather than taking a partisan stance, the episode encourages listeners to research for themselves, verify facts, and think critically about how political policy impacts democracy, civil rights, business, and everyday life in America.

With compelling commentary, detailed analysis, and engaging sponsor segments, this episode challenges audiences to ask an important question: Is Project 2025 restoring America — or fundamentally reshaping it?

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Welcome to Doing the Do in Business with Miss June. This is where business, leadership, culture, history, a little politics along the way, and community tends to collide in conversations, but these conversations matter. I'm your host, Miss June, and I'm glad that you're here. Today's episode is going to tackle one of the most controversial political blueprints in modern America. Project 25, 2025 rather, Project 2025. Want to take a look and see is Project 2025 is it running or is it ruining America? That's the title. Now, as you know, Project 2025 has become such a lightning rod. Boy, what a lightning rod it is in American politics. You have your supporters of it that calls it a constitutional restoration movement. You know, this movement is supposed to be designed to reduce federal bureaucracy and return power to elected leadership in the individual states. But then you have your critics, on the other hand, they call this a very dangerous restructuring plan that could impact democracy, civil rights, education, health care, immigration, and of course that big one that executive power for generations. So I'm just gonna try to do a little catch-up and see where we are with Project 2025, with some of the issues that we've been seeing floating around in the media. So we'll try to cover as much. So I'm interested in kind of you know, touch and base to see what's happening with voting rights, minority voter redistricting. That's the big one, education reform, DEI. We're so familiar with how they shut all of that down, and you can't miss homemade security and immigration, and then we know they did all those changes with um health care, especially immunizations. Then we want to kind of consider executive authority, and we can't miss that big one in the room, the tensions involving Iran right now. And then we also want to maybe see if we can figure out how current events are aligning with parts of that project 2025 document. And then I'll try to certainly make sure I have some historical references if I may, and maybe get into the document, that project 2025 document, and provide some section references from the document and some um timeline. But there is a growing debate over how much of Project 2025 is already influencing American policy. Now, please understand that this little chat is it's designed to be purely informational and analytical and not partisan. So let's just keep that in mind. Now, if we look at um the actual document, Project 2025, you know, it's officially titled The Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise. And just to go back into it, this document was primarily organized by the Heritage Foundation and a lot of Allied Conservative organizations. Now, this document is over 900 pages and it outlines recommendations for restructuring the federal government under a conservative administration. Now, this document started to leak out in 2023 and 2024 during the presidential election cycle, and then some of the biggest themes in the document was supposed to focus on reducing federal bureaucracy, uh expanding the presidential authority, and we see that happening, uh, restricting DEI programs, restructuring education, and uh, you know, strengthening the borders. Now, here's the many here's the major question many Americans are asking. How much of Project 2025 is already happening? Now, there's no official government tracker that's measuring the Project 2025 implementation, but you have several political analysts and some of your watchdog groups, they're estimating that portions of the document are already aligning with 25 to 40 percent of some of the conservative legislative priorities, and these have been introduced nationally at the nationally, federal, and the state level between 2023 and 2026. Now, that does not mean that project 2025 itself has become the law. Basically, what that means is policies resembling its recommendations, quote unquote, air quotes here. These recommendations are starting to appear and show up in state legislation, executive action, court decisions, agency restructuring proposals, and of course, these national political platforms. Now, supporters of Project 2025, they say, Oh, that's good because this proves that these ideas are so popular. But you have your critics, of course, that say this is demonstrating this big coordinated uh effort to reshape the American government. It's a big one. That project 25 is something. Project 2025. There we go. I don't know why I keep saying project 25. Well, today's episode of Doing the Do in Business with Miss June is brought to you by Show Nuts House Plan Seasoning. Brings soulful flavor and unforgettable taste to every meal. Perfect for meats, seafoods, vegetables, and family gatherings. This portion of the show is also sponsored by Show Consulting, helping organizations grow through leadership, branding, strategic planning, and business development. I'm gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. Don't touch that dial.

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Welcome back. If you've just joined us, you're inside doing the do-in business. If you miss June, just revisiting that Project 2025 document. And the title of today's show is 2025 running or is it ruining America? Before the break, I just left the foundation just a few reminders of who created the document, the Heritage Foundation. It's that policy guide that's over 900 pages long, and they're supposed to be reduced federal bureaucracy, and they want to expand presidential authority, and they're supposed to name board enforcement, but at the same time, programs such as DEI, education, healthcare, now and redistricting is being affected. Now, one of the sort of areas, in my opinion, of course, connected to Project 2025 involve and minority voter redistricting. Now let's be accurate. Project 2025 openly called for eliminating minority voting rights. But you have to argue that the document's recommendations involving federal election oversight of justice could weaken federal protections that are connected to what we know as the Rights Act of 1965. Now the document, Project 2025, what we're talking about, it uses reducing what conservatives describe as excessive federal Indian state election management. But you have your supporters. Your supporters say belongs primarily to the states under the Constitution. Then your critics that uh reduce federal oversight could uh make it harder to discriminatory voting election processes. You know, that's a lot to talk about. That's a mouthful. Let's look at it just really quickly. Um, let's discuss redistricting. Now, in recent years, there have been in uh Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, oh yeah, Florida and and this was uh involving their congressional maps. Now you have groups that argue that this um dilutes your minority vote. In 23, just a reference here, there was a court case, say Supreme Court, uh Allen versus Milligan. And what they were saying that Alabama likely the Voting Rights Act by failing to create sufficient majority black districts, well voting districts, and you know Alabama has a large minority population of African Americans. Why would that matter? Even if we're just talking about Alabama for a minute, why would that matter? Matters because Project 2025 includes recommendations that include reaching the civil rights division of the Department of Justice. And you know, you have your worry because those changes could reduce the federal challenges with these uh voting maps. And we already see this happening. You see this happening, you see where they're trying to turn the um, what is it, they're trying to turn the blue states red, yeah. Yeah, they're trying to turn the blue states red, and they're trying to get all of these districts so that they can have the Republicans have can have more seats. Now, you have some that say that um the states should have authority over the election systems without federal interference. But here's what's happening on the national level with all this redistrict and redistricting and voting rights on the national level. What's happening is there are stricter voter ID laws. They're really making a lot of changes to what constitutes a proper identification to vote. They're changing per section, uh, they're changing procedures with the elections, and they're also uh having debates about you know voting access. Where are gonna be, what are the districts, where they're drawing, where are they drawing the lines in the sand. And then, of course, speaking of in the sand, it's getting really aggressive with these redistricting battles. For example, um, they had a complete overturn in Virginia, and then the people's voices did not count, and they threw it out. You know, those Democrats, they did their thing, but then because it did not go in the favor of Republicans, that Supreme Court got involved and declared it um, you know, illegal, crazy, because the people voted. You know, you have these uh critics that say all of these are with voting rights, it is straight alignment with the philosophies and the project by priorities, but then you have some of the uh supporters say long-standing conservative policies that have always been around before Project 25. Before Project 2025. I don't know why I keep saying just 25, but I don't think those have been around. I think that there has always been a plan and now it's showing up 2025. And just really quickly, this was a big one. You remember Project 2025 attacked education and DEI? Well, education was one of the largest sections within Project 2025, and what that document did significantly reduce the role of the Department of Education. It returned educational authorities to the states, the parents, and local districts. And what that ended up doing in 2025, again, it's not the law, it's a bunch of recommendations. It recommended parental rights initiatives, curriculum oversight, and they wanted to federal influence over the local schools. That's what the recommendation for education, and then another area of the project 2025 that we kind of on, but just a reminder was very controversial and it involved the DEI program. DI it stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion. And project 2020 was very critical of many of the DEI initiatives because they felt that oh it's just and so the document proposed and it did to remove federal DEI, limit race conscious hiring practices, and reduced um diversion mandates. See the supporters, they were all for this, but then you have your critics argue that this reduced minority representation, of course, in the workforce and the business sector, etc. It weakened civil rights protections, and the critics also feel that it suppressed black historical education. Um, HBCUs were affected. Um, a lot of private colleges were affected because they were money uh intended for DEI programs at colleges and universities. It was really bad. Then you have your supporters that just sub they just support uh getting rid of DEIM. They try to say that you know it unfairly prioritizes identity politics and finds merit-based systems. I'm a big believer that with these DEI programs, you have to have merit, you have to be qualified, and you have to be able to do the job. I just leveled the playing field and provided an opportunity to be in the room. I can tell you that since 2023, several states restricted DEI office versus race-related curriculum has been challenged, books discussing sexuality have been removed from schools, and there are laws limiting discussion systemic racism against having these conversations in class. They have actually introduced law. You can't have these types of conversations, and of course, one of the biggest high-profile examples of this legislation involving educational content restrictions was the state of Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and other states they introduced similar policies, but they were not as Florida, and again, Project 2025 is not the law, but they say that Project 25 is what drove these um recommendations, and you know, supported that these reforms are restoring educational neutrality and giving back parental, and as always, America is divided. Thus, Project 2025 running America, or is it ruining America? Which is the top of today.

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Welcome back. If you've just tuned in, you are inside doing the do in business with Ms. June. And today we little refresher conversation taking a look back at that Project 2025 document. The topic is is this ruining you know, is it ruining America or is it ruining America? And we just talked about a few little foundational things before the break and earlier created uh programs that were proposed to be affected. Because again, the project is a 900-page document is not the law, but it is recommendations that implemented, you know, uh attacking, and I'm gonna say attacking because that's my opinion. Voters voting rights, the DEI programs, education, health care, and um of course, you know, you have your critics, you have your supporters, and there is no tracker measuring this. However, as I mentioned earlier, the political analysts say that 25 to 40 percent of these conservative legislative properties should be introduced not only at the federal level, but also the national and the state. And this is between 3 and 2026. And of course, this is an area that's happening right now involves voting rights and minority voter redistricting. About the um elimination of DEI pro has affected HBCUs, it has affected um hiring practices, so it has also affected uh things such as um education, of course, in the work in the workforce. And then just going on into some media um DEI offices and universities have been, you know, race-related curriculum has been challenged. And then, of course, you know, Florida that big one profile example of where all this is um introduced. So we won't go too much into that. But what I do want to touch base on is uh immigration and homeland security as it relates to Project 2025. Yeah, immigration enforcement that was another major focus of Project 2025. The document itself is in support of stronger border enforcement, expanding the mission operations, limiting asylum pathways, and increased authority of the immigration enforcement agencies. Now these um recommendations of restructuring securities operations and the authority consolidating the immigration authority. This is going to increase family separations, it is going to military enforcement, it's going to expand operations. And guess what? That was the part of 2025. Remember you said children and family agents separated the military being called into several states uh when the um wanted to protest all of that happened. And you have supporters of all this that say immigration enforcement protects national security and the border. You know, of course the critics have a different opinion. What we witness as a mirror voter is we witness conflicts at the borders. We notice all this migrant transportation between the states, like picking somebody up in one state and take another state, and then all these political battles about people trying to seek asylum that should not have been deported. But they would think they've been deported. I mean, they were really grim people. I mean, that's just horrible. You know, it's it's just it's just really horrible. And of course again, right in twenty twenty five is not the law. But if you read in that nine hundred page document, the element closely resemble those recommendations that is in the document. You can even take it a step further. Let's look at health care under the market again. Is Project 2025 running America? Or is it ruining America? Document reduced. I mean, that document recommended the reduction of federal health care. Recommended limiting abortion access. It also recommended the public health agencies and it recommended rolling back data-related health care protections. And then your critics, of course, are not the critics because they're always going to come. The critics are you that these issues? The critics are you there. The primary people that would be affected by all of these going to affect women. But again the document is not a law put in place to make recommendations. And again, we have the hours remember the interpretation. A lot of people see that document um differently. A lot of people haven't even read the document. A lot of people are not even paying attention to how that part of the document is beginning to run parallel with exactly what's happening in the real world. At one point, I guess people might wake up and who knows, maybe they'll read it. If you just joined us, you're inside doing the do in business with Ms. June. And today we're just having a brief about Project 2025 and taking a look to see how the recommendations from the document are impacting our real world today in America. So that's the subject. Is it running America or is it ruining America? This portion of the show is brought to you by Show Consulting, helping organizations grow through lending strategic planning and business development. For me for more information, send an email to at gmail.com. We're going to take a quick break and when we come back, we'll just talk a little bit of what's going on in Iran and is there a tie-in to that with the project 2025. Stay tuned. Don't touch that dial. We'll be right back. Welcome back. If you've just joined us, you're inside another edition of Doing the Do in Business with Miss June. I am your host, Miss June, of course. Today's just been a quick little conversation about Project 2025. And is this document, 900-page document, is it America or is it ruining America? So by this time, we've really covered our DEI programs, a few um uh few little tidbits application has been affected. And if you haven't seen that document, you can still get that 900-page document. Just go into Google and typing in Project 2025 900-page document, and you can down as a PDF file, and you can read a lot of these things for yourself. So a lot of these things that is making America largely and deeply divided, or recommendation project 2025 document. Again, that document is not law, but instead it's a bunch of per se in regards to running our country and really the power the president so much power. Well, let's now just look at something that we can't ignore. What's going on with Iran, foreign policy, and executive power is you know, I guess you want to call it foreign policy. Well, the Project 2025 document strongizes military readiness and having um a very aggressive national revolution when it comes to our advertising adversaries such as China and Iran. Now, again, the document does not officially call for war with Iran, however, we're beginning to point out um some of this really strong hawkish, as you may say, in which they're calling out this expanded executive authority and also looking at some of the foreign policy frameworks, and also they look at the idea of how a lot of the political tensions are really, really, really ramping up. And if you had there are some recent Middle East conflicts that involve you know these Iran-based militiats, for example, uh attacks on these shipping routes that we're seeing, expanded U.S. And then also our uh foreign policy analysts, they're starting to have you know pretty intense concern, of course, about our uh military. You know, that's that's big. You have some observers, in their opinion, they believe that this geopolitical positioning, foreign policy that was recommended in the Project 2025 document. And you have the supporters saying, Oh, these strategies have always existed and these conservative forces, this has been around for decades. Then let's take a look at this thing that's called a, if you may. Part of that Project 2025 recommendations in the presidential authority over federal agency, and that document supports replacing thousands of employees with politically aligned appointees. Now, if you look inside that project 2025, it's under something called proposal schedule F that deals with restructuring. All of these things have happened, and other things that have happened to this uh the recommendations from the Project 2025 document, the FBI has the Department of Justice has become politicized, Homeland Security has become, and of course, you know, your supporters always say, Oh, well, that's good because it increased the ability, you know, to elected leadership. But the big debate is this all these changes and politicizing and of course weaponizing is cutting directly into the constitutional balance of power, and other constitution is there for a reason to maintain order and balance, and all these changes and recommend being being rolled out under this administration after back after the project 2025, everything's happening if you just pay uh attention, some controversy. You know, you have um online conspiracy theorists claiming that uh 25 is a strong dictatorship blueprint. Um, the conspiracy that project 2025 is a plan to eliminate elections and to give permit authoritarian rule. And so, of course, you've heard President Trump saying, Oh, you guys will never will never have any more elections. The president should be able to be the president forever, all the president should be able to return. That's part of that that they're talking about in regards to blueprint. Now, there is no verified evidence that's supporting these claims. I'm just sharing from the angle of the conspiracy theorist. Now, you do have legitimate constitution, and many and plenty of civil rights advocates raising concerns about uh the press power concentration, meaning he's just getting so much power, but then the constitution is becoming weakened, and also the civil rights becoming severely reduced. And then if you look at the president, in the beginning, he just tried to distance himself completely from 2025, but many contributors, you know, previously say that hey, his administration, and we were part of Project 2025, he knew about it, and so it's it's just so great because you do have a lot of these supporters, you know, they the media exaggerated the document so they could create political fear and misinformation. But I'll be honest with you, it doesn't matter what you think, what you read, regardless of your political ideology. 2025 has already transformed the national political conversation, transformed it. So just ask yourself this question Is 25 running America, or is it ruining America? That depends solely on their state. Some Americans may see stronger borders, constitutional conservatism, or restored state authority. But then, on the other hand, through the other others see threats to voting rights, they see weakened civil rights protections, and they also see in educational diversity. Then they certainly see expanded executive democratic instability. But here is what matters most. Document for yourself, research deeply, verify the information, and to study history. Because when it really boils down, democracy depends on informed, not just social media social media reactions. So with that, I think I've said it all. So thank you for joining me in today's conversation. Is Project running America or is it ruining America? I miss you next time. Keep doing the do in business, leadership, and in truth. And until next time.